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People of faith do not need proof that their faith justifies their belief in God. However, atheists need science to prove there is not one.- 25 May
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@Dagan81 No one needs to prove there is not one, and most atheists know that is impossible.
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People of faith do not need proof that their faith justifies their belief in God. However, atheists need science to prove there is not one.- 25 May
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@J_indetroit I love your spirit, ma'am. It's rather comical the absurdities I find when I look at daily life. I am glad you agree with me. - 25 May
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@Dagan81 Not sure if we agree. I’m just saying non-belief does not necessitate some proof of non-existence. It’s just non-belief. :-)
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People of faith do not need proof that their faith justifies their belief in God. However, atheists need science to prove there is not one.- 25 May
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@J_indetroit It appears that atheists are turning to "intelligent design" to explain "creationism." But why not spontaneity? A process? - 25 May
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@Dagan81 I don’t know what you mean. How are atheists turning to intelligent design?
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@J_indetroit @Dagan81 Today's checkin with Juli's TL has left me baffled. I've reread a couple times and still can't figure what he means.
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@Dagan81 Right. Atheism stands for nothing. It is merely the answer "I don't believe you" in the face of god claims. It's not that deep. - 28 May
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.@Dagan81 That doesn't mean atheists stand for nothing. It only means they don't believe claims of god.
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@J_indetroit I'm rehashing what you said. If atheists believe in nothing but actually do and create societies, divinity's finite and flawed.
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@Dagan81 I specifically said that atheists still believe in things, just not gods. Are you reading my comments?
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9:26 PM - 27 May 2014
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@J_indetroit I did, and you also stated earlier that they believe in nothing, but never clarified.
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@Dagan81 Huh?
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9:22 PM - 27 May 2014
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@J_indetroit Juli, you just sat there and told me they stand for nothing. Are you pulling a U-Turn and saying "nothing" is "no gods"?
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@Dagan81 I said atheism stands for nothing. It is not a doctrine. That doesn't mean atheists don't stand for many things (they do).
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Jonathan Henderson @Dagan81 22h
@J_indetroit We agree (?) in this discussion that atheism essentially means nothing and stands for nothing. How did he relate it to himself?
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.@Dagan81 That doesn't mean atheists stand for nothing. It only means they don't believe claims of god.
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@Dagan81 Right. Atheism stands for nothing. It is merely the answer "I don't believe you" in the face of god claims. It's not that deep.
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Jonathan Henderson @Dagan81 23h
@J_indetroit Furthermore, since you know what about the issue enough to play Devil's Advocate, what is your definition of "atheism"
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Jonathan Henderson @Dagan81 May 27
@J_indetroit And if atheism is something they truly felt strongly about, why didn't they stay put as atheists? Theories must not be enough.
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Jonathan Henderson @Dagan81 May 27
@J_indetroit And, again, I ask you on your end: If you did not know what I meant by "they," who do you mean by "they"?
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Jonathan Henderson @Dagan81 May 27
@J_indetroit Furthermore, since you know what about the issue enough to play Devil's Advocate, what is your definition of "atheism"
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Jonathan Henderson @Dagan81 May 27
@J_indetroit We agree (?) in this discussion that atheism essentially means nothing and stands for nothing. How did he relate it to himself?
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Jonathan Henderson @Dagan81 May 27
@J_indetroit Therefore, if an atheist believes in "nothing" but creates a communal society based upon this, he is omnipotent despite flaws.
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@Dagan81 Huh?
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Jonathan Henderson @Dagan81 May 27
@J_indetroit I'm rehashing what you said. If atheists believe in nothing but actually do and create societies, divinity's finite and flawed.
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Jonathan Henderson @Dagan81 May 27
@J_indetroit Atheists are selfish, they want others to be atheists because they don't want a world with people of conviction live well.
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@J_indetroit I did, and you also stated earlier that they believe in nothing, but never clarified.
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Jonathan Henderson @Dagan81 May 27
@J_indetroit And if atheists believe in "nothing," is "nothing" implied through the non-belief in deities? That entails a weak foundation.
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Jonathan Henderson @Dagan81 May 27
@J_indetroit If atheists believe in nothing nor in gods, but still have created societies on this model, they assumed the role of deit(ies).
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Jonathan Henderson @Dagan81 May 27
@J_indetroit It is a very self-serving position. If it isn't based upon anything - and no gods is "nothing" - they exalt themselves as gods.
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